Backcycling Query

Harmony and theory
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Working on Backcycling through a diatonic scale chords with 2 5 1 as outlined in IFR

For each diatonic chord in the key I am back cycling first to dom7 (4th below) then to min7 (4th below dom7) (if I start on a major or dom chord) or min7b5 (4th below dom7) (if start on a minor chord).

If I want to push the tension back further how do I back cycle further before the 2 chord and will that be different if I originally started on a maj,min or dom chord as my resolution for this part of a progression?

ie what is the: X in X 2 5 1
Then X X 2 5 1 and so on

Is it a matter if just dropping another 4th
And playing the chord of that note in that key.

Let’s say first chord is A (1) Key A

C#m7 F#m7 Bm7 E7 A

Let’s say first chord Am (6). Key C

C#m?? F#?? Bm7b5 E7 Am

For the chords above the MinMaj7 sounds ok but not sure I’ve got this backcycling concept nutted.

Any help appreciated.

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The way I’ve seen this handled in diatonic jazz standards is to stay with the diatonic chords. So in key of c, it goes backwards f b e a d g c, and then back to c.

The songs typically “temporarily tonicize” the target tone of a 251, treating it as if it’s the 1 chord. Doesn’t work for the 7b5 chord of course. So they just stop at that point.

But there’s nothing from stopping you from going out of the single key. Just drop down a fourth each time. Both ways sound good to me, but different. As always, if it sounds good, it is good. The sound comes first, the labeling later.

As a practical matter, most jazz standards seem to stay in the sequence 36251

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The back cycling with the 3 & 6 seems to work OK prior to 251 with diatonic minor chords. Thanks for the response Hender99

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